Good Monday morning, everyone! Having grown up in Texas was an unparalleled experience. Having been my Father’s sole ranch hand, even more so. Splitting my time between riding fence and riding in a school bus gave me a perspective that not many get to experience, and straddling Bubbaland and the rest of the world was always a balancing act.
I was exposed to the best of Texana (self-reliance and connection to the land), and the worst (Sundown Towns and hard bigotry served up with a soft smile) every single day. This is why the wingnuttia meme of Texas secession hits me especially hard. Having said that, I’m ready to suit up and pry open a big ol’ bubbling drum of secessionist slime.
Who’s with me?
Avoiding A Train Wreck: Texas Secession
TheCypressTimes.com ^| 12/22/2009 | Darrel Mulloy
Posted onTuesday, December 22, 2009 12:45:51 PM byPatriot1259
…the federal, rather central, government is a train wreck that is on
its way to happen, and we, all of us, are passengers on that fated
train. Like passengers on a train headed too fast for a curve in the
track, we can (at least most of us can) see the impending danger in
front of us, and most have a strong suspicion that we will not survive
the coming wreck. We are also afraid to jump off of the doomed train
for fear that we will be hurt when we make our exit. There may be rough
ground outside and we may suffer pain and injury. It seems we would all
rather take our chances with a train that we know will most likely take
us to our end. Such is the human condition.
(Excerpt) Read more atthecypresstimes.com …
1 posted on
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 12:45:52 PM by
Patriot1259
Yowza! Of course, the fact that U.S currency would instantly become worthless in Texasland (I wonder what the new currency would be worth, and what it could be redeemed for?) , all truck traffic and trade would cease, and our ports would be embargoed initially (while the U.S. Armed Forces waited on their next orders) doesn’t seem to worry the Secessionist Shitheads. Even worse are the “Let’s you-and-them fight” types kibitzing from the safety of their own states.
To: Patriot1259
In a New York minute…(I’d join, if I were Texan) I’m sorry to
have used a euphemism mentioning such a corrupt and immoral state,
second only to Illinois and California.
2 posted onTuesday, December 22, 2009 12:50:41 PM byGaffer
p>To: Patriot1259
I want off the train. SECEDE!
5 posted onTuesday, December 22, 2009 12:57:37 PM bybroken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country – Nathan Hale “Patriot”)
div class=”ecxa2″>To: ConservaTexan
agreed.. I hope a movement begins in that wonderful state for secession.
8 posted on
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 1:00:56 PM by
Chuzzlewit
4 posted onTuesday, December 22, 2009 12:54:45 PM bytexan75010
But most at FR are all for playing Jenga with the Republic:
To: texan75010
You have to start somewhere.
You have to have a secure place to launch an offensive.
9 posted onTuesday, December 22, 2009 1:03:43 PM bymyself6
Oh, really? Now these mental midgets have made the leap from defying the Federal Government to attacking it?
I’ll see your Ft. Hood and Ft. Bliss – and raise you aMalmstrom AFB. Besides – who are you gonna pick for a CIC? Goodhair Perry? Heh.
To: Patriot1259
W for president?
10 posted on
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 1:03:51 PM by
Ike (My idea of election reform – blue fingers in Philadelphia!)
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And just as the insanity is winding up to 10,000 RPM :
To: PGR88
“How to get TX citizenship???!”
You won’t as the Republic of Texas will actually have strong immigration laws and tough border security.
As far as we are concerned the people swimming over the Red River, Sabine River, or Rio Grande will all be the same.
25 posted on
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 1:46:59 PM by
trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
Some killjoy comes along and spoils everything!
To: Patriot1259
I think Texas secession is a fine idea.
But before anyone goes and gets all excited over the possibility, ask
yourself this question: am I, personally, willing to shoot and kill an
American soldier or Marine?
And will my handgun be any good against an Apache attack helicopter, drone, or APC?
Don’t ask such a question lightly. Put yourself in the situation where
you, with your own finger, have to pull the trigger on a man wearing
the uniform of the United States armed forces — a man with a family,
who speaks the same language you do, watches sports on TV, has a kid in
college. Can you do it? Can you live with it afterwards?
At the same time, ask yourself how you would feel about seeing your
town occupied by troops and placed under martial law. Imagine every
newspaper, television network, and major website in the world aligned
against you. Imagine your kids going hungry, spending their days in
hiding, dodging bombs and bullets. Imagine no gasoline at any price.
Imagine no cars, no motorcycles, no trains, no buses. Imagine no
electricity for months on end. Imagine no meat, no fresh vegetables, no
a/c, no heat. Imagine no antbiotics when you get cut on a barbed-wire
fence or perforated by a bullet. Imagine eating garbage, wearing rags,
crouching in the cold rain by a dark roadside planting homemade bombs
while guys in dry clothes hover overhead in their Apache helicopters
with night vision cameras, their machine guns ready to chop YOU into
hamburger meat.
Imagine being a terrorist. Because if Texas ever did secede from the
United States, and you supported that secession, that is exactly what
you would be, by law.
And you know how Emperor-for-life Dubya feels about terrorists…
I’m not saying that we should forget the idea. What I’m saying is let’s
be damned sure we have a realistic picture of what it would be like if
it ever happened. Secession would mean war — with the whole United
States military (and probably a lot of foreigners) versus Texas. It
would not be some Red Dawn fantasy, complete with heroic music, teenage
girls in tight jeans firing machine guns, and John Milius on hand to
guarantee a happy ending.
It would be like Iraq, only YOU would be the Iraqi. Think of everything
the Army did to the Iraqis during the war. Now think of it happening to
YOU.
Again, I’m not saying secession won’t someday be necessary. But I am
saying that we ought to think damned seriously about what Uncle Sam did
the last time we tried it.
29 posted onTuesday, December 22, 2009 1:51:13 PM byB-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
And evenmore seriously about how it turned out.
Well, that’s enough secession silliness – more after the Jump To End All Jumps.
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The only way the Republic of Texas would survive is if they started doing what the national legislature will not do–taxing the rich (whereupon the rich in Texas would be hopping on their executive jets and heading for elsewhere). The state has a lopsided federal tax dollar return–mostly due to the many large military bases located there–and that would disappear along with the military (and that’s no small consideration–Bliss, Hood, Randolph, Lackland, Laughlin, army depots in Red River and Corpus, Fort Worth NAS, Brooks City Base, NAS Corpus Christi, Ft. Sam Houston, Ingleside, Dyess, Sheppard, Goodfellow). I doubt that a seceded Texas could even police its own borders properly.
Texas, in very short order, would become the world’s newest third-world country. The religious right wing there would be stoning adulterers and gays and chopping off the heads of anyone they could chase down, and the school systems would become even worse than they are now. The smart and sensible people–the ones that make the Texas economy go–would be escaping as quickly as possible. The first thing the legislature would do would be to eliminate all the social safety net–minimum wage (which is about all the keeps about half the state’s citizens’ heads above water), Social Security, Medicaid, etc. In no time at all, the state would pretty much turn into an Afghanistan with jackrabbits, pear cactus and slavery.
Great! Let’s all 50 of us secede! We could call ourselves The United States of Central North America. We could even mint new coins, with the heads on the back and the tails on the front.
Heh, I hear George W’s looking for another company/country/state to screw up.
Ooops. Ike beat me to it. Who says the Freepi don’t have a sense of humor?
And just because I can’t let it pass, my castration anxiety is returning. Here’s what theNWA 253 bomber’s underwear (via ABC) looked like after they cut them off him. Ouch.
–Kibitzer
I love it! ‘Patriots’ for secession! We have to make ’em keep Cornyn, Bush, and Chuck Norris. The US national average IQ would go up several points without those three dragging it down.
I particularly like the fact that all those non-Texan freepers are egging them on, little realizing that it’d mean 34 fewer rightwing electoral votes in every presidential election. We’d never have to suffer through another wingnut presidency! They haven’t even figured out that by losing 2 Senators and 32 Reps that their Congressional minority would shrink by that much more.
I don’t know if the freepers are just natively stupid, or if their hatred of anything non-freeper destroys whatever judgment they might once have had; but I do know that if they didn’t exist we’d have to invent them. They’re pure comedy gold.