OK, peeps. One newish topic and a big grab bag of moldy oldies.
First up –“It’s a blech thing, baby – you wouldn’t understand!”
Allen West Calls Trayvon Martin Shooting an ‘Outrage’ and Endorses Federal Investigation
The Blaze ^ | March 22, 2012 | Mytheos HoltPosted on Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:03:25 PM byFree ThinkerNY
Ever since his CPAC Keynote Address in 2010, Rep. Allen West (R-FL) has been one of the gold standards of modern American political conservatism. He has also been widely hailed as a political model for conservative African American politicians. And now, following recent revelations surrounding the highly suspicious shooting of Trayvon Martin, Rep. West has joined a growing bipartisan consensus calling for the case to be reopened, possibly even with Federal assistance. West’s statement, put out today by Talking Points Memo, resonates with controlled fury (emphasis added):
itself in Sanford, Florida involving the shooting of 17-year-old Treyvon Martin. First of all, if all that has been reported is accurate, the Sanford Police Chief should be relieved of his duties due to what appears to be a mishandling of this shooting in its early stages. The US Navy SEALS identified Osama Bin Laden within hours, while this young man laid on a morgue slab for three days. The shooter, Mr Zimmerman, should have been held in custody and certainly should not be walking free, still having a concealed weapons carry permit. From my reading, it seems this young man was pursued and there was no probable cause to engage him, certainly not pursue and shoot him…against the direction of the 911 responder. Let’s all be appalled at this instance not because of race, but because a young American man has lost his life, seemingly, for no reason. I have signed a letter supporting a DOJ investigation. I am not heading to Sanford to shout and scream, because we need the responsible entities and agencies to handle this situation from this point without media bias or undue political influences. This is an outrage.
1 posted on Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:03:26 PM byFree ThinkerNY
To: Free ThinkerNYVP…lol
To: Free ThinkerNYSo is West also ignoring the eye witness report that this 6’2″ “kid” was beating the cr@p out of the Hispanic man who shot him? Apparently so.
BTW, as a conservative, the media tells me I hate blacks and Hispanics, so my imputed racism makes me neutral…
To: Free ThinkerNY
“conservative African American politicians.” African American political conservatives. Priorities.
6 posted on Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:11:06 PM byI see my hands (It’s time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)To: Free ThinkerNYSo much for West!
Just another Racist/Race-baitor pretender in the mold of Colin Powell.
Martin out weighed Zimmerman, and towered over him, and inflicted serious injury.
10 posted on Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:15:46 PM byeditor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax – No Way!)
To: Free ThinkerNYSo this guy should be slammed in jail, in irons if necessary, w/o trial. And the Police Chief fired for refusing to jump to conclusions.
Allen West: Some conservative. We’re supposed to be the side of “Nation of Laws.” But not when the shootee isone of West’s People, I guess. Oh well, this is the year for people to wash out of the conservative movement, and today it’s West’s turn. Bye.
32 posted on Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:31:29 PM byCyber Liberty (The only flaw is that America doesn’t recognize Cyber’s omniscience. — sergeantdave)To: MissouriConservativeFrom what I’ve heard, Zimmerman was attacked as he was going back to his truck by this “kid”.And from what I’ve read, the “kid” had done nothing to warrant being followed, first in an SUV and then on foot, by Zimmerman, who ignored police dispatcher instructions that he should not pursue Martin.
What would your reaction be if you were simply walking home from the store and some stranger started stalking you and then chasing you on foot?
The fact that Martin had reason to be concerned should be self-evident – he was killed. There’s certainly room for questions in this case.70 posted on Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:58:58 PM byAnotherUnixGeek
To: piytarEven a so-called black “conservative” can’t see passed the skin color.
To: 101stAirborneVetSo far, nobody has presented any evidence the kid is a criminal. Since it’s been about a week, I think it’s safe to say that he wad simply a kid who had been walking home to his father’s house after buying his goods at the local convenience store and nothing more.
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To: SoldierDadMexicans shooting blacks is a normal day here in LA.
I can’t believe they’re STILL on the Birther bus; I thought they drove that one into the ground long ago.
You would think that over the last few years, with all the reasons Obama has given them to hate him, that they’d have moved on to a more “reality based” shrieking.
Amazing.
I do not understand the right-wing’s reflexive defense of George Zimmerman. Usually when the wingnuts go on the attack — like in the Sandra Fluke case, for instance — it’s easy to discern their motivation. Sandra Fluke spoke out in support of Obama, Obama is evil, therefore Sandra Fluke is evil. Also, socialized medicine, sexity sex, birth control, etc.
But this case has me flummoxed. I don’t know if anyone has been over toLittle Green Footballs and followed Charles Johnson’s ongoing thing with Dan Riehl but it’s just hilarious, in a sad way. Riehl claiming photos the media has been running of Trayvon Martin were “lightened” to make him look more “innocent” (light now means innocent? Really?) and as racist as that stupid assumption is, it’s not even true because the photo he was referring to was a picture of Martin off a rally sign, not in the newspaper , so of course it will look different. Michelle Malkin picked it up I mean, it’s just insane. Now it’s all “media bias!” I’m like, what? An unarmed innocent minor killed by a neighborhood watch guy is suddenly a partisan issue?
So what the hell is going on? Is it the right’s racism? Is it their pro-gun stance? Like, if someone is killed they must have been doing something wrong? All black teenagers deserve to die?
What the hell is their issue? I really just don’t get it.
So much of Freeperville is just homage to the No True Scotsman fallacy. I wonder how much total content is devoted to arguing over who is a true conservative and who is a RINO.
And as far as the birther thing: I thin these were the people who, as kids, would consistently make up new rules to childhood games until they finally won. They are the most dangerous of political elements, because they don’t really believe in their country, Constitution, or democracy. They only believe those things when they result in the election of a pale skinned Christianist with a dick.
Thanks Tommy T!
Very welcome, lady Loralei.
SB – I come to heap red-hot coals of ridicule on the Freeperati, not psychoanalyze them.
As Sigmund so often says: “I’m on vacation”.
Tommy
Remember, one of those kids who constantly made up new rules until he finally won was president for eight years. I think the birthers miss him, even though I’m not sure they’ll ever admit it.
Thanks for delving through the insanity again Tommy!
@Razor Eddie
The birthers love the idea that Obama isn’t really President because it allows them to feel that the right didn’t lose the 2008 election, it was stolen from them. Following this reasoning, everything bad that Obama has done since elected (i.e. everything that has happened since 2008) will be magically reversed once this fraud is revealed. These fantasies, along with a side order of racism, help drive the birther dream.
@Southern Beale
I ‘d guess that the Trayvon story has just the right combination of gun rights, racism and biased liberal media reporting that appeals to the right, although this doesn’t quite make sense, even allowing for their typical twisted reasoning. I’d also like a better idea of what the hell motivates them, assuming it doesn’t drive me insane.
RE: birthers. During the Clinton Administration the repubs very often, on hearing “President Clinton”, would shout out “He’s not my president!” Even with Clinton, born and bred in Arkansas of lilly-white parents, they couldn’t cope with the thought that a dem could be prez. Looking at the combination of Clinton and Carter, even though Carter was born-again evangelical, they couldn’t deal with him being a Southerner (likewise Clinton).
RE: making up rules. Calvin Ball anyone?
Southern Beale–
Don’t try too hard. On that path lies madness. But, if like Perseus with Medusa, you glance at it in a mirror you can get some understanding and remain sane. Basically: 1) Black kid shot dead by neighborhood watch “captain” (reported as white); 2) Kid was black, probably a mugger, drug dealer, burglar; 3) Brave white guy proudly defends himself from scary black guy, standing his ground andusing a gun; 4) It turns out the white guy is half Latino, and possibly half Jewish; 5) OK, change the narrative–not quite what they wanted, but better than a scary black guy, and anyway supporting him proves they’re not racist; 6) but anyway, somebody exercised his second amendment right to shoot scary black guys.
That’s about it. Don’t try to go any further without an emergency psychiatric team standing by (or a team of trained logicians).
Yep, been following it with a mixture of shock, awe and hilarity.
–Kibitzer