OK guys – back in the saddle again.
I did expect that the crowded Republican field would result in a lot of desperate mud-slinging, but I had no idea the shouts for attention would get so bad. Let’s start of with a bit of Anne-archy from The House Of Dead Breitbart, shall we?
Meltdown Day 2: Rick Wilson Asks Ann Coulter If Donald Trump ‘Pays More for Anal’
Breitbart.com ^ | 18 Aug 2015 | John NoltePosted on 8/18/2015 2:45:51 PM by Rockitz
Tuesday afternoon, Rick Wilson, a top Republican consultant who sometimes appears on CNN as an analyst, sent a tweet to conservative author and columnist Ann Coulter asking if Donald Trump pays her extra for anal sex. “Does Trump pay you more for anal?” Wilson tweeted.
Apparently Wilson was responding to Coulter tweeting out a Breitbart News article from Monday detailing his bizarre decision to politicize a rape threat Wilson claims was made against his daughter.
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Friday on CNN, Wilson attacked 25% of the Republican base as “low information voters.” Just two days later he publicly politicized the rape threat against his daughter. Twenty-four hours after that he’s publicly accusing Coulter of being a prostitute.
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Jeb sure has a great mouthpiece in Rick Wilson. What a loser. How does this guy ever work again after this?
To: RockitzThat’s really shocking. I doubted his rape threat, now I’m convinced he’s lying. He has a filthy mind.
4 posted on 8/18/2015 2:48:07 PM by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I’d like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.”)
To: Sarah Barracuda
To: Beave MeisterA woman that promoted Flip Flopping like John Kerry and Mitt Romney, Arch Liberal, really has no business talking about leftists destroying America unless as an insider to the process.
2 posted on 5/25/2015 9:13:59 PM by Norm Lenhart
To: Beave MeisterWhat RINO will she be endorsing this time for POTUS so we will have another Rat POTUS?
…and so on.
Now, all her sins have been forgiven, as she has kissed the hem of The Darnold’s robe.
To: RockitzJust another reason why I’m glad I’m no longer a Republican.
9 posted on 8/18/2015 2:50:25 PM by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
To: Jan_Sobieski
To: Responsibility2ndJust remember the “Breitbart” websites are NOT LIKE ANYTHING Andrew Breitbart would be running. Once Andrew passed, they do no high quality investigative reporting like Andrew did.
93 posted on 8/18/2015 4:06:56 PM by seekthetruth (I still want a Commander In Chief who honors and supports our Military!)
To: RockitzSounds like Wilson wants to be anally violated. Perhaps, even, by going to one of those Washington, D.C. S&M madams and having her wear one of those contraptions to do him. Heck, Wilson secretly wishes (or does) to drop trou in a bath house and bend over to pick up the soap. His foul “tweets” are subconscious declarations of his own perversity.
97 posted on 8/18/2015 4:13:43 PM by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called “Conservative” is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
To: RockitzLiberals always think about sex. Everything is related to sex. They only have primal impulses and never any high cognitive thoughts. This is an eGOP representative who no doubt claims Trump is “hurting the brand” while he utterly destroys it.
98 posted on 8/18/2015 4:16:40 PM by CodeToad (If it weren’t for physics and law enforcement I’d be unstoppable!)
Anyway – on with the Freeperati and their fascination with teh bunghole!
To: Liberty Valance
To: Rockitzasking if Donald Trump pays her extra for anal sex.For Coulter?As if.
To: humblegunner[For Coulter?]
Impossible, her sphincter is so tight, her stool resembles a strand of spaghetti.
I heard.
104 posted on 8/18/2015 4:23:23 PM by RetSignman (Obama is the walking, talking middle finger in the face of America)
To: conservative98My question is will the media ask Jeb about these remarks? lol. I won’t hold my breath.
25 posted on 8/18/2015 2:57:00 PM by ballearthout
To: Rockitz
To: CodeToadI seem to read a whole lot of sexual innuendo from both sides. It annoys the snot out of me. Can’t we figure out a way to demean the policy differences w/o using sexual language to demean the person?
A Freeper will be along any minute now to tell her not to get her tit in the wringer, or ask her if she’s on the rag…
If it’s not sexual innuendo, it’s comments on what someone looks like. FTLOG … are we all still in middle school where we pick on other people because of what they look like?
No, you’re on Free Republic.
In middle school, you get called to the Principal’s office for butthole jokes.
Rhetorical comment … as I will change no one’s mind. Just sick of reading some of the stuff that passes as political commentary. I’ll crawl back into my 1980’s cave and pretend that all’s well. 🙂
113 posted on 8/18/2015 4:35:31 PM by conservaKate
Icahn: Sure, Trump Let’s do This
cnbc.com ^ | 7 Aug 2015 | Everett Rosenfeld
Posted on 8/10/2015 7:24:43 PM by HelicondeltaPundits have largely deemed Thursday’s debate a misstep for real estate mogul Donald Trump, but he may have won over billionaire investor Carl Icahn.
The activist investor tweeted Friday afternoon that he had decided to accept a Trump offer for Treasury secretary. Still, he noted that “the methods of electing our corporate and political leaders have become completely dysfunctional.”
To: entropy12Trump has lost millions of $$ with the cancellation of his show, The Apprentice. He also has a Mexican mafia narco-trafficante contract on his head. And idiots are still claiming that he is doing this for Hillary.
Liars!
4 posted on 8/10/2015 7:34:20 PM by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF TWO USA CITIZENS)
To: HelicondeltaThis guy is like no other. Just handing out cabinet positions on twitter. I am dying.
I can see the GOPe, like the old lady, “that’s not the way it works.” Lol.
7 posted on 8/10/2015 7:51:22 PM by nhwingut (Trump-Cruz 2016 – Blow Up The GOPe)
To: Helicondelta
To: sarasotaCarl Icahn is a total POS.
He virtually destroyed my hometown with a takeover and shutdown of a paper mill that was making money and providing many, many well-paying jobs. Apparently, it wasn’t making ENOUGH money fast enough.
Be careful what you wish for, people.
11 posted on 8/10/2015 7:59:00 PM by Walrus (Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice – Barry Goldwater)
To: WalrusMaybe this is a joke.
Trump? Or his campaign?
Icahn as Treasury Secretary?
Oh.
Here’s what he did to a company I used to work for:
http://www.businessinsider.com/marc-andreessen-carl-icahn-killed-an-entire-airline-2014-3
17 posted on 8/10/2015 8:43:20 PM by Tired of Taxes
To: Tired of TaxesApologies.I too have worked for companies that were bought out with promises, and as soon as the ink was dry the new owner started hacking up things.However, I moved on, moved up, and kept plugging.
Perhaps someone who knows how to slash a budget, look for inefficiencies, and cut the fat is what out government needs.
Or, perhaps just selling the country off, one state at a time.
Working, and working well, are two very different measures. Imagine the crying from the unions when someone in dc actually looks to get rid of unnecessary federal agencies and programs. For them too it will be personal. But the country needs it to happen.
22 posted on 8/10/2015 9:30:21 PM by BlueNgold (May I suggest a very nice 1788 Article V with your supper…)
To: BlueNgold; Duchess47We do need someone in favor of slashing the federal budget.
But there’s a difference between slashing and cutting to make a company more efficient versus destroying the company in order to profit personally.
Don’t get me wrong… There’s nothing wrong with making money for yourself. It’s a ruthless game, and he’s good at playing it. The thing is, public service requires someone who doesn’t just look out for himself. Icahn is great at protecting his own interests, but we need someone in favor of slashing and cutting to make the country better.
For the record, although I did work for that company when Icahn was at the helm, I wasn’t working there when it went belly up. I’d already moved on by then, so this isn’t sour grapes talking.
24 posted on 8/10/2015 10:11:33 PM by Tired of Taxes
Trump Fans, It’s Time for An Intervention
National Review ^ | July 11, 2015 | Jonah Goldberg’s Weekly News Letter
Posted on 7/11/2015 3:59:03 AM by Cincinatus’ WifeThere have been times in the past when I’ve gotten crosswise with certain segments of the conservative base and/or with the readership of National Review. And, because, like the Elephant Man, I am a not an animal but a human being, I have always had at least some self-doubt. That’s as it should be. People who share principles should not only hear each other out when they disagree; they should be able to see each other’s points and hold open the possibility that one’s opponents have the better argument.
This is not one of those times, at least not for me.
I truly, honestly, and with all my heart and mind think Donald Trump’s most ardent supporters are making a yuuuuuuge mistake. I think they are being conned and played. I feel like a guy whose brother is being taken advantage of by a grifter. I’m watching helplessly as the con artist congratulates him for taking out a third mortgage.
Anger Is Not an Argument
Now, before I go on, let me clarify a few things. I get it. The base of the party is angry. They’re angry about Obama’s lawless chicanery on immigration. They’re angry about the GOP’s patented inability to cross the street without stepping on its own d*ck and then having to apologize for it. They’re angry that the Left’s culture warriors are behaving like an invading army that shoots the survivors even after they’ve surrendered. They’re angry that Republicans have to bend over backward so as not to offend anyone, while Democrats have free rein (and at times free reign) to do and to say as they please.
Enter Trump, stage left. He makes no apologies. He’s brash. I can understand why some see him as a breath of fresh air. If you want to give him credit for starting a worthwhile debate about sanctuary cities and illegal immigration, fine. I think that argument is way overdone, but certainly reasonable enough.
Trump supporters need an intervention. I want to sit them down at the kitchen table, reach into a manila envelope, and pull out the proof that he’s a fraud.
Maybe you just like him. On that, we can respectfully disagree, as there is no accounting for taste. Perhaps you just like his musk and the way it assaults your nostrils, which is fitting, given his line of cologne. Fine.
I, on the other hand, find him tedious, tacky, and trite. He’s a bore who overcompensates for his insecurities by talking about how awesome he is, often in the third person. Jonah can’t stand that.
You see the next Teddy Roosevelt and all I see is someone who talks big and carries a small schtick.
’Sup Britches?
In words George Will shall never write, this is a good moment to talk about my pants. Earlier this week, Donald Trump attacked Charles Krauthammer and me. By the way, I don’t blame Trump one bit for his hostility. I’d hate me too, if I were him. Still I do marvel at how this supposed Master of the Universe can be unnerved by such criticism. If it takes so little effort for me to set up shop in his head, by all means, let’s give him thermonuclear weapons.
Anyway, when asked about me, he said:
I’m worth a fortune. . . . I went out, I made a fortune, a big fortune, a tremendous fortune . . . bigger than people even understand. . . . Then I get called [a failure] by a guy that can’t buy a pair of pants, I get called names?
As the intern said to Bill Clinton, this puts me in a weird position. I don’t like to brag, but I’m actually quite adept at buying pants. I don’t enjoy it. But I can do it. It never occurred to me to put it in my bio or anything — “Jonah Goldberg is a senior editor of National Review, a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, and a successful pants-buyer” — but maybe I should.
Now, I will say that I sometimes choose not to wear pants, and not just because I’m so fond of my spaghetti-strainer codpiece (which affords me the satisfaction of telling really attractive women, “Hey, my eyes are up here. Thank you very much”). But these are my choices. If I want to identify as a pantless American, who are you to say otherwise?
More to the point, what I find so gaudy about Trump is his constant reference to the fact that he made a lot of money, and his expectation that it somehow makes him immune to criticism or means that he’s a better person than his GOP competitors, never mind yours truly.
The Trump-Pets Blare
Moreover, I find it horribly disappointing that his fans like this about him. If you met someone in real life who talked this way, you would think he’s a jerk. But somehow he’s awesome when he does it on TV?
The most troubling defense is this claptrap that he ‘tells it like it is.’ Well, first of all, no he doesn’t. He tells it the way you want to hear it, which is an entirely different thing.
His biggest fans disappoint in other ways as well. I marvel at how they can simultaneously despise Obama’s arrogance but revel in Trump’s. (I chuckle at all of the people who tell me he’s a heroic truth-teller for “telling it like it is” and “calling it as he sees it” but who at the same time fume at me when I tell it like it is about Trump and call it as I see it.)
But most grating of all are the people who sincerely think he should be the Republican nominee for President of the United States.
On this, I’m afraid we’re going to have to disrespectfully disagree. First of all, he’ll never be president of the United States. I won’t go into all of the reasons I think this, but a few off the top of my head: his enormous negatives, even among Republicans; the Midas’s hoard of oppo-research material that surely lurks beneath the surface; and his comments about women, which alone would turn the gender gap into a chasm. To borrow a line from Mark Steyn, a President Trump would have more ex-wives than the previous 44 presidents combined.
But my objection isn’t to the political analysis of Trump supporters. It’s their judgment of the man that stews the bowels.
The Purest RINO
Which gets me back to the grifter thing.
I’ve written many times about how I hate the term RINO because conservatives should consider themselves Republicans in Name Only. The Republican Party is a vessel, a tool for achieving conservative ends. It’s nothing more than a team. Conservatism is different. It’s a body of ideas, beliefs, and temperaments. The amazing thing is that Trump is both a RINO and a CINO. I’m sure he has some authentic and sincere conservative views down in there somewhere. But the idea that he’s more plausibly conservative — or more loyally Republican — than Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Scott Walker, or any of the others is just flatly absurd. It is vastly more plausible that he is a stalking horse for his dear friend Hillary Clinton than he is a sincere conservative.
Trump supporters need an intervention. I want to sit them down at the kitchen table, reach into a manila envelope, and pull out the proof that he’s a fraud. The conversation would go something like this:
Immigration: You seem to think he’s an immigration hardliner, and he’s certainly pretending to be. But why can’t you see through it? He condemned Mitt Romney as an immigration hardliner in 2012 and favored comprehensive immigration reform. He told Bill O’Reilly he was in favor of a “path to citizenship” for 30 million illegal immigrants:
Trump: You have to give them a path. You have 20 million, 30 million, nobody knows what it is. It used to be 11 million. Now, today I hear it’s 11, but I don’t think it’s 11. I actually heard you probably have 30 million. You have to give them a path, and you have to make it possible for them to succeed. You have to do that.
Question: Just how many rapists and drug dealers did Donald Trump want to give green cards to?
Abortion: In 1999 he said, “I’m totally pro-choice. I hate it and I hate saying it. And I’m almost ashamed to say that I’m pro-choice but I am pro-choice because I think we have no choice.”
Man, it’s like he’s channeling Thomas Aquinas there.
Now he says he’s pro-life. But I’ll spare the mocking on this because at least he’s flip-flopping in the right direction, and I don’t like to second guess peoples’ professed religious convictions.
Obamacare: The man wrote in his own book and said elsewhere that he was in favor of Canadian-style socialized medicine — which would put him to the left of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, and on pretty much the same page as Bernie Sanders.
Hillary: Speaking of her, Trump praised Hillary Clinton and her health-care reform plan — in 2007! She attended his (most recent) wedding. He donated to her campaigns and to the Clinton Foundation. In 2008, he couldn’t get his head around the fact that Obama didn’t pick her for VP. “I’m a big fan of Hillary. She’s a terrific woman. She’s a friend of mine.”
Economics: People tout the guy’s business record. But he represents almost exactly what his supporters think he opposes. He’s a crony capitalist par excellence. He gives to whatever politician can grease the skids for his next deal — and he makes no apologies for it. He’s an eminent-domain voluptuary. He abuses bankruptcy laws like a stack of homemade get-out-of-jail-free cards.
Parlez vous Conservative?
The most troubling defense is this claptrap that he “tells it like it is.” Well, first of all, no he doesn’t. He tells it the way you want to hear it, which is an entirely different thing. He is like William Jennings Bryan, only his cross of gold has an all-you-can-eat buffet under it, and looks remarkably like a capital “T.”
He is like William Jennings Bryan, only his cross of gold has an all-you-can-eat buffet under it, and looks remarkably like a capital “T.”
“The people of Nebraska are for free silver, and I am for free silver,” Bryan announced. “I will look up the arguments later.” That is Trump’s approach. He’s saying what understandably angry people want to hear him say.
He reminds me a lot of Mitt Romney, at least in one respect. I always said that Romney “spoke conservatism as a second language” (a line some people ripped off, btw). That’s why Romney called himself a “severe conservative,” talked about how he “likes to fire people,” and anathematized the “47 percent.”
Trump is even less truly conservative, but he’s trying to speak in an even grubbier dialect of conservatism. And, having grown up in the tabloid politics of New York, he’s better at faking it.
Eventually, I suspect, this will be the cause of his undoing. He doesn’t know what he doesn’t know about conservatism, and at some point he will say something that even his biggest fans will recognize as a damning revelation about the real man beneath the schtick. The only question is whether he implodes before or after he does permanent damage to the GOP’s chances in 2016.
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Good internal article links at source.No doubt there will be some comments.
To: Cincinatus’ WifeTrump Fans?Fan is short for fanatic.
And your point is?
We’ve seen enough of that kind of political worship from the past.
Funny – I’m seeing a lot of it on Free Republic in the present. Including its Grand Poo-Bah, Jim Rob.
But that is now – this was then.
The man speaks the truth. You don’t need to be a fan or fanatic to like that.
2 posted on 7/11/2015 4:03:34 AM by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
To: dragnet2“….The most troubling defense is this claptrap that [Trump] ‘tells it like it is.’ Well, first of all, no he doesn’t. He tells it the way you want to hear it, which is an entirely different thing…”
6 posted on 7/11/2015 4:06:41 AM by Cincinatus’ Wife
To: Cincinatus’ Wife
To: dragnet2Which truth?
Yesterday’s Donald or today’s Donald?
9 posted on 7/11/2015 4:13:54 AM by Cincinatus’ Wife
To: dragnet2“The people, maybe you too, who are frantic at Trump for speaking the truth are living a lie.”
Really now.. which is telling the truth…
1. The Trump who says it’s time to restore America and the human spirit.. or the Trump who attempted to eject a widow from her family’s boarding house because he coveted that space for limo parking?
2. The Trump who says to close the border and stop the taking by illegals of American jobs… or the Trump whose corporation has illegals doing construction work for it?
3. The Trump who makes the claim to be a conservative, or the Trump who has repeatedly praised “universal health care?”
So who again is “living a lie?”
39 posted on 7/11/2015 4:52:52 AM by ScottinVA (Liberalism is the poison ivy that infests the garden of society.ct)
To: Cincinatus’ WifeWho’s going to fight for the base who put them in office last year? McConnell, Boehner and the chicken $hit senators who are afraid of their own shadows and allows obama the media to crap all over them and not give them fair coverage? Been there, done that. The country is lost anyway. Might as well go for broke at this point.
To: Cincinatus’ Wife
Jonah Goldberg is a senior editor of National Review, a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute Jonah’s mom must be so proud of him,working for two employers that have to ask for donations
to keep the doors open and the lights on.
https://www.nationalreview.com/donate
But he still has every right to criticize and ridicule a man who
gets up every morning and goes to work in the real world.
Like Jim Rob does?
Please keep those donations coming in, folks. We need to wrap this baby up soon. [FReepathon LI]
Click here to pledge your support via secure server ^ | Aug 20, 2015 | Jim RobinsonPosted on 8/20/2015, 12:10:22 PM by Jim Robinson
Please keep those donations coming in, folks. We need to wrap this baby up soon.
And we truly do need your continuing support to keep FR on the air.
I read exchanges like this (and thank-you to the beloved Tommy T for dredging them up), and I see the 101st Chairborne of Free Republic, all angrily pounding away at their keyboards, all wearing those neck brace thingies because of the constant whiplash from reversing their deathless, timeless political positions from one minute to the next depending on who the target du jour is.
Don’t forget the blasts of spittle on the computer screens also, too. I wonder how many are going to stroke out before Nov 2016…