Today on Tommy T’s Obsession with the Freeperati – “We won, even though we lost” Edition

p>Good morning, everyone!

Well, Ms. A said that I was going to have some fun with this, so who am I to disappoint her?

Let’s suit up and open the containment chamber for this Pyrrhic Victory edition of “Obsession”.

Doug Hoffman has a Free Republic account!

Well, no – not really. A helpful Freeper has posted his concession email:

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NY-23 2009: America has changed [Hoffman concedes defeat to Owens]

Doug Hoffman for Congress ^

| 2009-11-04

Posted onTuesday, November 03, 2009 11:58:12 PM byrabscuttle385

America has changed, and you have helped. Although we did not
succeed in winning this election, we have succeeded in making sure
political parties and special interests no longer take the people for
granted. I believe we have sent a powerful message and laid the
groundwork for future conservative campaigns.

Custers-Last-Stand

I congratulate
Bill Owens on a hard won victory. In our tradition of free elections,
our country continues. And although Bill Owens has won, I believe
America is turning the page to a new dawn.

Start spreading the news…Doug Hoffman can win
Conservatives, this is the place where we begin

You RINOs begone…we’ve had quite enough
We want some real conservatives with the right stuff

Doug Hoffman knows we have been on a big spending spree
It must stop now or we’re through, you’re gonna see

So give Doug support as Sarah has done
The move to take the country back has just begun

Yes, we can win it there…we can win anywhere
Doug Hoffman for upstate New York

The ideas of
freedom, sound fiscal management and citizen government have sprung
back into our consciousness. Our founding fathers would be proud of New
York 23. It was here that our principles, those that have been the
foundation of our nation, came back to life with a vengeance. And it
was here that the people rose up against the political bosses who tried
to impose their will. It was here that people reached out to control
their own destinies again.

Despite the election results, I am
optimistic for our future, because now I know that I am not alone in
wanting to repair our great nation. Throughout this campaign I have
been inspired by the outpouring of support and the intensity of that
support.

HoffmanStrategy

I’ve met many different people in this campaign, from
many walks of life and many professions; each with a different personal
story to share. Yet we are all united in the belief that by
participating in democracy, we could inspire change.

I urge
that no one feel defeated, for this was only one of many elections. We
came close, we put our agenda in front of the nation and the nation
took notice. The worse thing we could do now, is not continue forward.
Next year there are other elections and other candidates who have drawn
inspiration from our efforts.

Fear

I would like to thank all of you
who placed your faith in me, who worked tirelessly and shared your
enthusiasm with those around you. You are all patriots, you have all
stood up for your country and I am honored to stand among you.

Thank you,

Doug Hoffman

div class=”a2″>To: rabscuttle385

Bummer. Thousands of votes remain uncounted, and I’m not even talking disenfranchised soldiers.

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posted onWednesday, November 04, 2009 12:00:40 AM
byrmlew
(Democracy tends to ignore…, threats to its existence because it loathes doing what is needed)

div class=”a2″>To: rabscuttle385

Job well done, Hoffman. Thanks for your effort and
your faith in Conservatism. May the GOP grow into a real political
party due to your efforts and those like you. As for RINOs…
BWAHAHAHAHAHHAH!

6
posted onWednesday, November 04, 2009 12:00:58 AM
byApril Lexington
(Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)

And then a flicker of reality peeks through:

To: rabscuttle385

We lost bigtime tonight. The other races were
meaningless compared to this one. Winning this was imperative to
teaching the GOP a lesson that it refuses to learn. I think that any
meaningful win in 2010 is dead at this point, because we’ve lost the
fight in our own party that needs to take place before we can win on
the national stage.

7
posted onWednesday, November 04, 2009 12:01:13 AM
byperfect_rovian_storm
(The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)

You’ve really gotta love that sig line – it’s every “conservative”s core fear writ large.

To: perfect_rovian_storm
We lost bigtime tonight. The other races were
meaningless compared to this one. Winning this was imperative to
teaching the GOP a lesson that it refuses to learn.

No… the
GOP lost a seat tonight. They were the losers. We are the winners
because we kicked them in the shins and got their attention.

I think my son tried that once when he was four. It didn’t work out all that horrorshow for him, either.

Conservatives won tonight. If Hoffman had won, he’d be in an
ineffective minority party. Just taking up space. He should consider
running again in 2010…

…so he can take up spacethen?

12
posted onWednesday, November 04, 2009 12:04:40 AM
byApril Lexington
(Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)

div class=”a2″>To: Mmogamer

Yes, apparently, I’m ‘nuts’. It must be that
I’m not ‘nuanced’ enough to get the idea that a GOP win is a win for
the people in the GOP who are fighting to win the country back. We LOST
tonight. At least my team lost tonight. Yours might have won, but my
team’s hopes of fixing what’s wrong with the GOP lost in a bad way.

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posted onWednesday, November 04, 2009 12:05:25 AM
byperfect_rovian_storm
(The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)

div class=”a2″>To: perfect_rovian_storm

We won 2 out of 3 and you’re saying we lost
big time? Scuzzy was unmasked as the flaming liberal that she is. Newt
was outed as the party liner that he is. We lost bigtime? Oh, I don’t
think so. Go read Sarah Palin’s latest Facebook entry and man up.

20
posted onWednesday, November 04, 2009 12:06:57 AM
byReneeLynn
(Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)

I think he meant “Go read Sarah Palin’s latest Facebook entry andlube up.”

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To: April Lexington

If Hoffman had won, he’d be caucusing with the
Republicans and it would be a win for all. All would have come together
under our terms. That is gone now.

24
posted onWednesday, November 04, 2009 12:07:47 AM
byperfect_rovian_storm
(The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)

div class=”a2″>To: ReneeLynn

WE didn’t win anything. The GOP won two races.
Conservatives went out on a limb to teach the GOP a lesson in NY23 and
we lost. We may celebrate along side the Republicans on the other
races, but WE lost this one.

27
posted onWednesday, November 04, 2009 12:09:29 AM
byperfect_rovian_storm
(The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)

div class=”a2″>To: Hildy

rOVIAN…IS NOT ONE OF US!!!

54
posted onWednesday, November 04, 2009 12:18:44 AM
byTexas4ever
(God is in control!)

Bodysnatchers

Much more as the Self-appointed guardians of “conservativeism” descend on Perfect Rovian Storm (which at some point probably sounded like a really cool screenname for FR) in a perfect storm of stupidity, right after the jim-jam-jump!

div class=”a2″>To: perfect_rovian_storm

“We lost bigtime tonight. The other races were meaningless compared to this one.”

Yep. Virginia going red is hardly a surprise as it only went blue
for BO. The NJ race was won by a moderate, and in NY 23 the
conservative lost even with the endorsments of nationally ranked
conservatives. This will just encourage the GOP leadership to run
moderates using this race as proof that conservatives can’t win. The
dems picked up what had been a solid GOP seat. Governors don’t get a
vote on health care bills or cap-n-trade bills.

69
posted onWednesday, November 04, 2009 12:24:49 AM
bysnarkybob
(‘)

div class=”a2″>To: rabscuttle385

“I congratulate Bill Owens on a hard won victory.”

He couldn’t have done it without you, Doug.

83
posted onWednesday, November 04, 2009 12:32:25 AM
byMojave
(Ignorant and stoned – Obama’s natural constituency.)

Owned

blockquote>

To: rabscuttle385

If he concedes but possibly wins with absentee votes, does he still win?

I know it’s a long shot, but I”m just curious how the process works. Can you concede and still win?

89
posted onWednesday, November 04, 2009 12:35:46 AM
byCedar

Dumbass

To: snarkybob

Exactly. It’s a victory for conventional
wisdom and the beltway elite GOPers. That means that any meaningful
attempt to take this country back is going to be ten times harder to
attain, because we’re going to be fighting the idiots on ‘our side’ the
whole time as well. This win would have given us an instant STFU pill
for RINOs. Instead, they get to use it against us…

99
posted onWednesday, November 04, 2009 12:40:25 AM
byperfect_rovian_storm
(The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)

div class=”a2″>To: perfect_rovian_storm

We lost bigtime tonight. The other races were
meaningless compared to this one. Winning this was imperative to
teaching the GOP a lesson that it refuses to learn. I think that any
meaningful win in 2010 is dead at this point, because we’ve lost the
fight in our own party that needs to take place before we can win on
the national stage.

You are correct. The message tonight is
RINOs win and conservatives don’t, despite huge donations from out of
state, and backing from Rush, Palin, and the Tea Party.

I don’t know why conservatives blew their load on this race.

Astroglide

Why did they think NY voters would embrace a conservative in a RINO
seat? After failing to stop McCain in the primaries and failing to
elect Palin. I have to assume a couple marches went well and
conservatives thought it nullified the 08 elections and we could now
afford to throw away congressional seats. Conservatives didn’t stop a
socialist on the SCOTUS, or the GM take over, and they haven’t stopped
Obamacare or cap and tax. All the political pull of the T-party
power-brokers behind a spoiler. what a shame.

Conservatives sent
a message to 0. The message is “The anti-obama constituency is so
powerless they are fighting for second place.
This is a good day to be
a rat.” The rats are willing to bend, overlook, and break any law to
win. They will lie to win. They will pretend to be centrists. We can’t
do that for fear the conservatives will desert the party. Conservatives
think the best way win is to bludgeon the inhabitants of Reagan’s Big
Tent.

The GOP promoted a moderate candidate in New York in a
RINO seat. That is a winning stratagy. Hoffman got every conservative
vote, and he lost.
Conservatives should consider a strategy that
expends less energy going after RINOs in favor of going after democrats
( the guys in power ), but they wont. Conservatives will blame the GOP
leadership for an unelectable conservative failing to win in a liberal
state.

The GOP now has 2 out of 31 congressional seats in NY.

122
posted onWednesday, November 04, 2009 1:00:45 AM
byOnce-Ler
(ProLife ProGun ProGod ProSoldier ProBusiness Republican To The Core)

div class=”a2″>To: Once-Ler

If the only realistic choice was between the leftist Democrat and the even more leftist Republican, this was a good result.

127
posted onWednesday, November 04, 2009 1:10:59 AM
byPsalm 144
(FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY ADULT LIFE, I AM PROUD OF NEW JERSEY!)

I agree.

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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Well, we just have to cheer up and speculate on who is Sarah going to mess up next?

149
posted onWednesday, November 04, 2009 1:39:27 AM
bytxhurl
(It’s only a matter of time before FreeRepublic has this fraud’s scalp on our lodge pole.)

Ouchie.

Once-ler tries to explain it again:

To: Cedar
If it was a true two-person race, just Hoffman and the Dem, Hoffman would have won.

The 6% who voted GOP knew Dede wouldn’t win. That is called a protest
vote.That is moderate Republicans, who couldn’t vote rat, giving the
finger to Rush, Palin, and out of state money.
How do you conclude
those voter would go out and vote for Hoffman if Dede wasn’t running?
They were already at the polls TONIGHT and pulled the lever for Dede.
Why would they choose Hoffman when they clearly rejected him?

It’s not logical. It’s just what you want to believe so you can blame the GOP for running a moderate in a liberal state.

134
posted onWednesday, November 04, 2009 1:22:35 AM
byOnce-Ler
(ProLife ProGun ProGod ProSoldier ProBusiness Republican To The Core)

div class=”a2″>To: AlienCrossfirePlayer

Does anybody know who appointed Dede
Scozzafava to be the GOP candidate? He should resign from whatever
position he holds in the GOP. World class bungle. I plan to write to
GOPers in Congress and party organizations to demand it.

It was
11 GOP county chairmen of the 11 counties in the congressional
district. I don’t know how those chairmen are elected but in WI, they
are elected by the members of the county GOP. Perhaps you could send a
letter to all the Republican party members in NY-23 to tell them about
your out of state demands.

150
posted onWednesday, November 04, 2009 1:40:00 AM
byOnce-Ler
(ProLife ProGun ProGod ProSoldier ProBusiness Republican To The Core)

div class=”a2″>To: Once-Ler

Perhaps you could send a letter to all the Republican party members in NY-23 to tell them about your out of state demands.

Maybe you should look into conservatism, it is real popular here at freerepublic.

159
posted onWednesday, November 04, 2009 1:46:00 AM
byansel12
(Romney/Scozzafava 2012)

And fortunately, not anyplace else.

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To: The Pack Knight
In the end, I’d say today was a loss for
Obama, but not a win for conservatives. A win for Hoffman would have
put conservatives in a very strong position. His loss means the fight
for the soul of the GOP is alive and well, and certainly won’t be
resolved before the 2010 elections. This could get ugly.

I agree with that.

181
posted onWednesday, November 04, 2009 2:02:11 AM
byBradyLS
(DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)

/div>

Well, I have enough time to pry open a drum marked:

Sarah – pinpoint, or pinhead?‏

Sarah Palin a bright light in the sea of darkness!

Posted onTuesday, October 20, 2009 7:14:25 AM byGregB

Lets talk about our candidate for the 2012 Presidential election

This is a place for us Sarah Palin fans to discuss all
things Sarah and the election coming up.

We can make popcorn and stay up late and giggle under the covers.

Be prepared for the flames
throwers who hate her and will do whatever it takes to bring her down
democrat and republican. Please be civil. Count to 10 and stay above
the muck!!!

1
posted onTuesday, October 20, 2009 7:14:25 AM
byGregB

div class=”a2″>To: GregB

What happens if she decides not to run?

3
posted onTuesday, October 20, 2009 7:16:54 AM
byrhombus

Threadkiller

To: rhombus

“What happens if she decides not to run?”
*

Jim DeMint and Michele Bachmann

6
posted onTuesday, October 20, 2009 7:19:52 AM
byCanedawg
(FUBO)

OhPleasePleasePlease

To: GregB
Sarah doesn’t have the best/longest resume in the US
for a Republican and actually she is similar to O’Bambi in lacking
executive experience.

I fear she would govern like O’Bambi being afraid to make decisions and
not willing to make intelligent compromises to get things done in
Washington.

12
posted onTuesday, October 20, 2009 7:29:06 AM
byBeAllYouCanBe
(Until Americans love their own children more than they love Nancy Pelosi this suicide will continue.)

Ban_him

div class=”a2″>To: rhombus

What happens if she decides not to run?

The list of exceptional GOP women is longer than the men.

Liz Cheney

Michelle Bachmann

Marsha Blackburn

Jeri Thompson

24
posted onTuesday, October 20, 2009 8:07:51 AM
bydepressed in 06
(ZerOcare: Bureaucratic best practices equals death panels.)

div class=”a2″>To: depressed in 06

Uh… it has to be a woman? What are we, Democrats?

27
posted onTuesday, October 20, 2009 8:10:10 AM
byrhombus

Betty WhiteTired

To: GregB

This thread is useless without pics!

30
posted onTuesday, October 20, 2009 8:25:00 AM
bysnowrip
(Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)

I agree.

Fapfapfap

To: carmody
You’re kidding, right?

Sorry to all you Palin fans but I am not under her spell. To those of you that love her that is great but a reality check

I believe she has 2 years as Governor (not a full term) and 6 years as
mayor of Wasilla so that equals 8 years total of executive experience.
Not what I would say qualifies her to be president.

And because
O’Bozo doesn’t have experience I am not going to accept that in a GOP
candidate. If there are no good experienced Republican that means the
party needs to be rebuilt.

42
posted onTuesday, October 20, 2009 1:17:24 PM
byBeAllYouCanBe
(Until Americans love their own children more than they love Nancy Pelosi this suicide will continue.)

div class=”a2″>To: GregB

I’ve got two(of Palin’s book) on reserve, too, from Amazon.Sorry I have no idea what else to do.

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posted onTuesday, October 20, 2009 5:59:58 PM
bypaulycy
(PUBLIC OPTION = PREDATORY PRICING = UNETHICAL COMPETITION.)

Hard to add anything else tothat.

Well, the old clock on the wall says it’s time to go to the job I thankfully still have.

Next Monday’s post is going to be a long one, as these single-topic FR posts are pushing other laugh-worthy stuff to the foot of the queue. I recommend extra pairs of gloves.

/div>

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5 thoughts on “Today on Tommy T’s Obsession with the Freeperati – “We won, even though we lost” Edition

  1. (Until Americans love their own children more than they love Nancy Pelosi this suicide will continue.)
    Huh?
    I mean, huh?
    .

  2. MapleStreet says:

    Spork, you mean when Nancy Pelosi winked at you and said “You Betcha” you didn’t melt in your chair???? Oops – I was thinking of Palin.
    And Mayor of Wasila, population 5,000, is experience for runing the country? I live in a town population 15,000 and I don’t see the Mayor making those “big decisions.”
    But most of all, if I understand right, the NY 23rd was a win-win-win?????
    And to ask one question off-topic, how come the freepers weren’t out to change Scozzafava’s name. I mean its a lot longer and harder to remember than Sotamayor. And with a name like that, are we sure she was born in the USA????????????

  3. pansypoo says:

    when do we start a blue dog party so we have a SANE opposition?

  4. Dee Loralei says:

    LOL I was thinking there was entirely too much sanity and rationality in the Hoffman Loses thread. Dammit Tommy, I came for the shadenfreudeliciousness of their tears. Yea, I’m a heartless bitch. Quit weeding out the crazification dude 😛
    I imagine the health care passes threads were hilarious.

  5. Kibitzer 2006 says:

    Some stuff that the bleach rendered reasonably safe…

    The GOP now has 2 out of 31 congressional seats in NY. [Wednesday, November 04, 2009 1:00:45 AM by Once-Ler (ProLife ProGun ProGod ProSoldier ProBusiness Republican To The Core

    And none (as in zero, 0, zip, nada) in any of the states north and east of NY. (Deep Thought ™: since York and Jersey are part of England, why aren’t New York and New Jersey part of New England?)

    If Hoffman had won, he’d be caucusing with the Republicans and it would be a win for all. All would have come together under our terms. That is gone now. [Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:07:47 AM by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)]

    And there would go their last two seats in NY, along with at least a dozen other districts represented by vaguely sane Republicans.

    A win for Hoffman would have put conservatives in a very strong position. His loss means the fight for the soul of the GOP is alive and well, and certainly won’t be resolved before the 2010 elections. This could get ugly. [The Pack Knight]

    The GOP has a soul? Maybe once upon a time, but whatever is left of it is as black as coal. Still, it will be fun to watch the ugly fight over it.
    And the ugly seems to be starting already. From ThinkProgress (http://thinkprogress.org/2009/11/09/boehner-cao-health/):

    The reaction to Cao from the right wing has been swift and fierce, with some comparing the only non-Hispanic minority in the GOP caucus to Mao Tse Tung and calling him racial epithets.Rep. Don Young (R-AK) — who has defended Cao’s vote — had to stand beside him during Saturday’s roll call, “fending off his GOP colleagues who might have twisted Cao’s arms.” [emphasis added]

    Is it possible that Don Young actually has a soul? Or is he just smarter than your average teabagger?
    –Kibitzer

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