Today on Holden’s Obsession with the Gaggle – Torture Edition

From Holden:

Little Scottie tortures the language in response to the Red Cross’ accusations:

Q The International Red Cross says the U.S. military has used coercion that says is tantamount to torture on prisoners in Guantanamo. You know anything about that? Do you have a response?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, a couple things. One, we work very closely with the international committee for the Red Cross on detainee issues. When the International Committee for the Red Cross raises issues, we work to address those issues. There are times when we agree and there are times when we disagree. The President’s policy for the detainees in Guantanamo Bay is very clear. It’s a policy that states that detainees are to be treated humanely and consistent with the Geneva Conventions. And we have every reason to believe that our commanders are following that policy. We would strongly —

Q This isn’t the time where we disagree?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, we would strongly disagree with any characterization that suggested or implied that the way detainees are being treated at Guantanamo Bay are inconsistent with the policy that the President outlined. I’m not going to get into discussing specific reports by the International Committee for the Red Cross. These are confidential reports that are provided to the commanders on the ground — and the incidents you’re talking about, it would be to commanders in Guantanamo Bay. And we stay in close contact with the Department of Defense on these matters and issues that are raised, and to make sure that the Department of Defense is following up, or following through on those issues that are raised.

Q So when you say when the IRC raises issues we work to address those issues — not in this case, because you don’t agree with their finding?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, there are times when we disagree.

Q Is this one of those times?

MR. McCLELLAN: [Working closely; agree and disagree.]

Q But there’s no negotiation over this finding?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, like I said, we work — [Working closely; agree and disagree.]

Q Scott, in the past we’ve seen examples in Iraq, in particular, where detainee treatment has not been consistent with guidelines, policies from Washington. So are you not even looking to make sure, at this point, that they are?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, no, you’re talking about two — a separate matter. We’re talking about Guantanamo Bay here —

Q No, I know, but how do you know that —

MR. McCLELLAN: — but in terms of Abu Ghraib, I mean, the President made it very clear that he expected people to be brought to justice for any abuses that occurred. And the Department of Defense has moved quickly to hold people accountable and bring people to justice for any abuses that occurred at Abu Ghraib.

Q What is the administration doing to make sure that the treatment in Guantanamo is consistent with the policies —

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, that’s what I said, we stay in close contact — [Working closely; agree and disagree.]

Q But don’t you want to know —

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, I just said, we strongly disagree with… [Working closely; agree and disagree.]

Q Doesn’t the President think that this might merit further investigation, though?

MR. McCLELLAN: These are — no. What might — wait, what might —

Q The findings of the Red Cross.

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, again, I’m not getting into any specific reports… [Working closely; agree and disagree.]

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