10 thoughts on “Republican Proposed, Democrat Approved

  1. Guess that means all the bad apples will be freed and given back all their military status right?

  2. Thx for nothing, Harry Ried. The next time you promise your Democratic constituents that you’ll make damn sure this country stays away from torture, we’ll be sure to tune out since you’re obviously not able to deliver when push comes to shove.
    That pretty much sums up the Democrats these days, doesn’t it: Not. Able. To. Deliver. Bush and his boys at least deliver: faith-based initiatives, lucrative wars everywhere, tax cuts, wire taps, decimation of the Bill of Rights — all that jazz, they’re on top of it. The Democrats and simple stuff like standing up for fundamental principles of right and wrong? Not so much.
    And that’s too bad, really, because this country is ready for change, ready for a leader with integrity to stand forward and take over.

  3. is it ok if the underwear is dirty? because i think that would be going too far.
    winning their hearts!

  4. It’s all about defining torture away from anything that isn’t “organ failure” psychological torture is fine. They compare standing up in a stress position with marching band!
    We need some people INNOCENT people to talk about what that torture was like. Maybe we should have some “good christians” go through these tortures that are torture.
    This is how they are going to do it. By making torture, not that bad.
    Listen to Melanie Morgan, Brian Sussman and “Officer Vic” Tom Brenner talk about torture as if the act of torture were no big deal and just like their life as radio hosts! Oh those staff meetings! Torture!

  5. Remember that the republicans also are weakening laws for worker safety / work comp / discrimination / harassment in the workplace.
    Although I’vre been kidding about it, it has enough truth in it to be rather ominous:
    The BuschCo Congress has determined that waterboarding is not torture. Does that mean that I can start using it on my workers to improve morale?

  6. When I went thru Boot Camp, we actually had a mandatory class on sexual harassment. This was in 1983. So, I have to wonder how these ‘soldiers’ are not brought up on charges for forcing detainees to strip, and taking pictures. It certainly seems, in my mind at least, to constitute sexual harassment and probably sexual abuse.
    If they performed the exact same actions on an American civilian, say, while on weekend leave, it would be Story #1 on FOX. It’s disgusting and shameful. I’d expect a louder protest from our Dems, too.

  7. That’s ok; do you realise that most of this stuff is done in our own prisons to our own citizens?

  8. Someone posted this on another blog. Sorry, I can’t remember which one or by whom or I would credit them for posting it:
    From Milton Mayer: “They Thought They Were Free: The Germans 1933-1945”
    “What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise; to receiving decisions deliberated in secret, to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if the people could understand it, it could not be released because of national security…I do not speak of your “little men”, your baker and so on; I speak of my colleagues and myself, learned men, mind you. Most of us did not want to think about fundamental things and never had. There was no need to. Nazism gave us some dreadful, fundamental things to think about – we were decent people – and kept us so busy with continuous changes and “crises” and so fascinated, yes, fascinated, by the machinations of the “national enemies,” without and within, that we had no time to think about those dreadful things that were growing, little by little, all around us. Unconsciously, I suppose, we were grateful. Who wants to think?
    To live in the process is absolutely not to be able to notice it – please try to believe me – unless one has a much greater degree of political awareness, acuity, than most of us had occasion to develop. Each step was so small, so inconsequential, so well explained or, on occasion, “regretted”, that, unless one were detached from the whole process from the beginning, unless one understood what the whole thing was in principle, what all those “little measures” that no “patriotic German” could resent must some day lead to, one no more saw it developing from day to day than a farmer in his field sees the corn growing. One day it is over his head.”
    * * * History: Wash; Rinse; Repeat.

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