Good morning, everybody – time to get our feet wet in the bilgewater that passes for wingnut “reason”. Isolation suits on, please – this is going to be dirtier than Elspeth’s view of Interstate10.
First off – “Barracuda mis-construed-a”:
Posted onSunday, September 07, 2008 1:32:05 AM byandrew roman
Nancy and Ann Wilson, co-founders of the 1970s hard rock band Heart, are apparently a little perturbed that the song they made into a classic-rock staple, “Barracuda,” was used at the Republican National Convention last week. The song had become something a trademark for Republican Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin, an association that dates back to her days as a high school basketball star in small-town Alaska. Now that Governor Palin is a household name – and has affronted the sensibilities of the antediluvian feminist class – she will apparently have to find another theme song – that is, if the Wilsons have her way…
Well, then – I’m sure the pearl-clutching and hankie-twisting newly self-proclaimed defenders of femininity (if the female is Palin, that is) will be gentle to the Wilsons…
To: snarkytartOld Hag alert. Talk about who the f cares about these fossils.
To: GOP Poet>>>Hope they never take in another dime from any self respecting conservative
Did you even read what I posted? As far as it goes if the Palin campaign used Barracuda then Heart will get royalties for its use, and the free advertising will sell additional Heart albums.
It’s not a question of Heart making money from conservatives. It’s the VP candidate’s campaign and supporters locking her in as a character in a song about liars and cheats, untrustworthy people of bad character.People who should “burn burn burn”. With all the talk about vetting, somebody for sure didn’t vet the music.
This is one issue the supporters would be very smart to just quietly drop, and walk away.
TIME MAG SMEAR: Sarah Palin wanted to ban books at the local library (VANITY)
TIME ^| September 15 2008 Issue | By NATHAN THORNBURGH / WASILLA, ALASKA
Posted onSaturday, September 06, 2008 10:28:45 PM bylibrary user
I was at Borders this morning, and the below quote is in huge bold black letters in this rag.
“She asked the library how she could go about banning books.”
– John Stein (Palin’s predecessor as mayor)
“The librarian was aghast.”That woman, Mary Ellen Emmons, couldn’t be reached for comment.
(Excerpt) Read more attime.com …
Freeperati seem to be of two minds about this:
To: library userSo what if she wanted to ban books.
there’s plenty of books I would like to see banned.
To: library userDoes Palin seem like the type of person who would ask a library how to ban books?
If she wanted to ban books, that would be stupid.
She is not stupid.
Why, yes – she seems exactly like the kind of person who wants to ban books.
And you just called a whole lot of your Freeper brethern stupid.
Well, what’s next up? Why, it’s “The Amazing Sarah”! Now you see her, now you don’t!
Posted onSaturday, September 06, 2008 10:11:40 PM bykcvl
Today, top McCain aide Rick Davis indicated the campaign isn’t in any hurry to slot Palin for a Sunday show appearance — and will do so only if he and other strategists determine it serves the ticket’s purposes, not because some may view it as a required initiation for a major political player.
Appearing on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” show, Davis said, “I’d never commit to anything in the future. … Our strategy is in our hands, not the media’s. We’re going to do what’s in our best interests to try to win the election. If we think going on TV news shows are [sic] in our best interests, we’ll do it. If we don’t, we won’t.”
(Excerpt) Read more atlatimesblogs.latimes.com …
To: kcvlLike maybe she’ll be in church, kinda like a lot of the rest of us Christians…?
To: kcvlI wouldn’t want my VP running mate on these shows if all it was going to be was a bunch of sick, old white guys asking my VP running mate if she had an affair with (Fill In The Blank) as is being reported in the National Enquirer.
Jesus was a Community organizer Pilate was a Governor (BARF ALERT)
Posted on Monday, September 08, 2008 8:32:59 AM by NavyCanDo
T-shirts, and Bumper Stickers with these words: “Jesus was a Community Organizer, Pontius Pilate was a Governor”
On my drive in, listening to conservative talk radio,
they were talking about this new phrase, showing up on bumper stickers
and t-shirts, and which seems to be all the rave among Lefties. I’m
not ridiculing cafepress.com. They are capitalist in the truest sense
of the word, selling T-shirts and Bumper Stickers for both parties.
(They have some great McCain/Palin stuff) – but I find the phrase
absolutely disgusting, and wonder what sick and twisted mind first
thought of that phrase. Sounds like Ed Schultz of AirAmerica to me. I
actually hope the lefties do buy this shirt or bumper sticker. I think
the average American even those to the left of center, would be very
turned off by the comment and it would do Obama no favors at all.
posted on Monday, September 08, 2008 8:33:00 AM
Adolf Hitler was a community organizer-his beer hall putsch was an example of his “community organizing”.
posted on Monday, September 08, 2008 9:07:16 AM
Well, I’m glad we clearedthatup.
So, what’s next in the embarrassment of foolishness we call Free Republic?
Ah – it’s “Freepers – the quote that wasn’t”:
Obama: Palin Is Just Another Pretty Face, Not A Pig (on Letterman last night)
Topix.com ^| 09/1108 | Not listed
Posted onThursday, September 11, 2008 10:29:16 AM bystockpirate
Obama really is pretty clueless. Instead of hinting that Governor Sarah Palin is a pig with lipstick, he goes on Letterman and calls her just another pretty face – insinuating she has no brains, views or…
(Excerpt) Read more attopix.com …
All right! A new fauxrage! WOO HOO!
To: stockpirateShe’s a pretty face alright Hussein, one that is in the process of treading you under. A politcal tsunami that is rising to wash you and your misbegotten Presidential aspirations away in a tidal wave of all-American, red, white, and blue. You know, the kind you would not wear on your lapel.
To: stockpirateFox News has the transcript up, http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/11/obama-letterman-pigs/ and that statement isn’t there.
Are we being set up again, or was it some insinuation he made that he can slyly back out of later?
To: donnabI just went on youtube and found the first part of the interview on the Letterman show. There was no mention of just another pretty face. Did this happen in the second part of the interview? And is there a link to the comment somewhere?49 posted onThursday, September 11, 2008 10:58:47 AM bywbarmy (Hard core, extremist, and right-wing is a little too mild for my tastes.)
To: MissyMaHere’s the transcript of the interview, and I don’t find the quote they are talking about.Letterman interview
Hey – don’t mess with the legend that’s already in approval stage for the ad from Freedom Swatch!
To: Always Right; Admin ModeratorI read it and watched it.. He never said “pretty face”. Personally I think we need to drop this whole pig/lipstick thing. It makes Gov. Palin look like a victim. This could backfire if we over play our hand.
To: Always RightI too posted a link in #47 and cannot find the quote. My guess is that someone took the “lipstick” comment to mean that, which can leave us with egg on our faces by creating a firestorm over a comment not made.
We need remmeber just how crafty and underhanded the left is.
To: stockpirateDid he actually say pretty face?
New John McCain Ad Sets Record Straight on Obama’s Role in Immigration Reform – Video 9/12/08
Blogs for John McCain ^| September 12, 2008 | brianinmo
Posted onFriday, September 12, 2008 12:56:56 PM byblogsforthompson.com
Here is a new John McCain Ad on “Immigration Reform.” It is in Spanish and aimed at Hispanics to set the record straight no who actually tried to get Immigration Reform passed. Below is the translation:
ANNCR: Obama and his Congressional allies say they areon the side of immigrants. But are they?
The press reports that their efforts were ‘poison pills’ that made immigration reform fail.
No guest worker program.
No path to citizenship.
No secure borders.
Is that being on our side?
Obama and his Congressional allies ready to block immigration reform, but not ready to lead.
JOHN MCCAIN: I’m John McCain and I approve this message.
Whether you agree with McCain or not on his attempt at Immigration Reform, this is a brilliant strategy to win over Hispanic Voters. He has been a great friend to Hispanics, and this ad points out the reality that Obama is big on talk but short on actions. . . . . . (see video at link)
(Excerpt) Read more atblogsforjohnmccain.com …
To: AmericanInTokyo; E. Cartman; calcowgirl; indylindy; roamer_1; 6323cd; djsherin; SoConPubbie; …Barf. McCain still hasn’t given up on amnesty. And just last night on his Virginia Web site, there were ads touting his “climate change” solution as a matter of “national security.”
To: rabscuttle385I don’t even know what so say. Seems like astounding stupidity to remind voters about immigration.4 posted onFriday, September 12, 2008 1:16:48 PM bycripplecreek (Voting Conservative isn’t for the faint of heart.)
To: blogsforthompson.com“Whether you agree with McCain or not on his attempt at Immigration Reform, this is a brilliant strategy to win over Hispanic Voters. He has been a great friend to Hispanics,”
McCain needs to be a ‘friend’ and win over some US CITIZENS first! They’re NOT all hispanic and want amnesty, which I’m sure is a surprise to him. If McCain would get right on this subject he’d win this thing big. The ‘hispanics’ have already turned on him for all his pandering, just like they did Bush.5 posted onFriday, September 12, 2008 1:17:11 PM byAuntB ( “During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” – George Orwell)
To: cripplecreek; roamer_1; DoughtyOneI don’t even know what so say. Seems like astounding stupidity to remind voters about immigration.It’s not the only dumb thing he’s reminding voters about.
Last night, when I checked, his Virginia Web site (virginia.johnmcccain.com) was running ads touting climate change as a national security issue. (Wtf.)
McCain is still McCain. The only difference is thathe’s now hiding behind Palin.
To: rabscuttle385good thing it didn’t spell maccca8 posted onFriday, September 12, 2008 1:24:09 PM byVastRWCon (Obama raise taxes kill babies, Palin raises babies and kills taxes.)
To: VastRWConmcaccca9 posted onFriday, September 12, 2008 1:24:45 PM byVastRWCon (Obama raise taxes kill babies, Palin raises babies and kills taxes.)
To: blogsforthompson.comDoes this idiot McCain want to lose? Gawd almighty. He is turning around and makin’ it hard for me.
To: blogsforthompson.comHe has been a great friend to Hispanics…What, exactly, does that mean? Without promising them goodies how has he been a friend?12 posted onFriday, September 12, 2008 1:30:25 PM byraybbr (You think it’s bad now – wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
To: blogsforthompson.comNo path to citizenship.Oh, so Obama is the reason illegals have “no path to citizenship”? And here I was hatin’ on Obama!13 posted onFriday, September 12, 2008 1:31:23 PM byNea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
To: blogsforthompson.com“Mis amigos, me llamo Juan McCain, y yo quiero …
Presidente de los Estados Unidos de Norte America!”14 posted onFriday, September 12, 2008 1:36:57 PM bytumblindice (I’m sticking by my guns and voting for conservatives.)
To: rabscuttle385This was my comment on Jim’s thread. I don’t want it to be taken as a slam at Jim, because it’s not.
Jim and many folks on FR are going to vote for McCain because they recognize Obama to be a terrible prospect for President. I’m not going to fault them for it. I just can’t support John McCain. I’ve had it with voting in folks who will do serious damage to our nation, just because they other guy might do more.
Give me a guy who truly loves this nation, or don’t expect my vote. At any rather, here is my comment on that thread.
Ranting and Raving
Posted onSunday, September 14, 2008 6:22:31 AM byLLBeet
I was forwarded this email. It is apparently from an Obama’s supporter, and shows us what they think on this year’s issues. Have a go at it.
1. I Agree with Obama on NOT drilling off shore. Americans need to be weaned from addiction to oil, and the materialistic life style manipulated by companies peddling their non essential wares, in ‘consumer economy’.
America has 3% of the world oil reserve. Drilling off shore is a short term, short sighted measure, and catering to interest of oil companies to make profit. This is capitalism running amok. It is the most sensible thing to invest heavily in renewable energy sources. Look at how Denmark became independent of oil after experiencing the oil shock of the 1970s. Newt Gingrich had a book just out ‘Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less’. Oh my God!!! Talking about feeding a bad habit, short term pandering!!!
2. Many things in the Constitution are not clear, and need interpretation. Also they were written at a much simpler time, and if they are no longer good for the country in light of the new environment, then they need to be revisited. Nothing wrong with the Supreme Court Judges making interpretation based on their assessment.
Also there are laws that are obsolete, and clearly wrong, written at a particular time. Are the laws in the South that deny education to blacks just and should be enforced? Should the laws that deny blacks access to public facilities be enforced because they are ‘Laws’ passed at one time by bigots?
3. Service in the Military: Remember that after Vietnam, the military is all volunteer, and no more draft. The vast majority of young people below the draft age when the draft was abolished do not serve in the military. There are many ways to serve one’s country, and joining the military is not the only way. Fighting to defend your country is admirable, and the people in the military deserve the thanks from the people. However, shutting down your thinking mind, taking orders even though they are clearly bad and wrong is not a desirable thing.
4. The US SHOULD introduce a health care system where EVERYBODY is covered. It is a matter of running it efficiently. It will cost a lot less than having 45 millions people without health insurance, do not have the knowledge or means to maintain good health, and go to the emergency room and burden hospitals, and in the end society, when they are gravely sick. I do not want to be tied in to a job because of the need to get health insurance. With my recent experience with the health care I need (I have 2 health care insurance policies), and the sheenanigan that both service providers and insurance companies are playing, I am leery of the slogans ‘you are in charge of your own health care, you have choices’. Watch the programs on public TV on the health care systems in other countries such as Canada, England, Germany, Sweden, Taiwan, and yes even Cuba. America, one of the richest country in the world, is ranked in the 30s in healthcare.
5. Obama did NOT say ‘pull troops out of Iraq immediately’. He favors a clear time frame for disengagement, getting the Iraquis to take primary care of their nation, and consistent with a safe withdrawal for US troops. This is what the Iraquis now are saying, and now Bush and McCain also adopt.
6. I don’t have any problem with not having guns in my house, if I can rely on the police and government to protect me and my family. I don’t have problems with people keeping guns in their houses to protect themselves, as the government and the police have not been able to provide adequate security, especially in many poor areas. I have problems with people owning guns to show off the gung ho, ‘manly’ behavior, to go hunting deers when they do not need the meat (I don’t have problems with deer population control), and yeah, hunting quails too for fun. I wonder whether Dick Cheney needs the quail meat.
7. What’s people do in their bedroom is their business. I thought that Republicans are for getting the government out of regulating people’s life. Sex is only one aspect of life, at a certain stage where hormones are raging, and it is also as a natural built-in instinct. There are other aspects of human relantionship such as companionship, caring for each others. With the number of people in the world now, with wars all over the place, and human’s means for mass destruction, and behavior not conducive to a sustainable world, I can see the time when homosexual people, not only being allowed to get married, but might be even rewarded for not bringing kids into this world. And by the way, if they adopt children and really take good care of them, they should be lauded. How about looking at homosexuality as nature’s, or creation’s mistake?
8. Money is not everything. Nobody likes taxes, but if they provide the means for programs to benefit society at large, they are justified.
9. English has become the defacto language of the world, because of the advances in technologies, and the freedom of speech and democracy in England, Canada, Australia and the US. People who do not know, or learn it is short changing themselves. There is no need to make it a law. Talking about less government and regulations!!! The children of immigrants here all learn and speak English. Why the need to make life miserable for older people who do not have the time, the means, or ability to learn a not so easy language?
10. What does it mean by give ‘Social Security benefits to illegals?’ Social Security is given to people who pay taxes, and contribute to Social Security. What’s wrong with returning benefits to people to contribute into the fund?
11. Now on the issue of taxes. I do not know where the details come from. I saw on TV Obama stating that he will cut taxes for people making less than $250K a year, but will abolish the tax breaks that Bush and the Republicans introduced that help make the rich much richer, and the middle class and the poor having much harder time. In America, if you take advantage of the opportunities, work hard, stay healthy (not ingesting all those food, drugs and chemicals that companies are peddling), you should be able to have a decent life, with all basic needs taken care of.
I don’t have anything against McCain per se, but funny that he is taking the theme of ‘change’ from Obama, knowing that the vast majority of Americans are sick of the Bush Administration and the Republicans for the last 8 years, and think that America is on the wrong track. Note that now he is touting the ‘maverick’ image, while voting for Bush policies more than 90% of the time, even reversing his original strong position against torture.
What alarms me most was his catering to the religious rights by selecting Sarah Palin as his running mate. She is clearly a strongly ‘religious’ person. From Yahoo’s news ‘Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin told ministry students at her former church that the United States sent troops to fight in the Iraq war on a ‘task that is from God.’ and will try to advance the religious agenda. And look at her family. I remember watching Jimmy Swaggart on TV crying ‘I have sinned’, and then ‘God forgives him’. The same kind of theme over and over. What kind of God would forgive these transgressions, just because people say they have repented, and now believe in Him, while bringing his wrath and Armageddon on people who use their minds that God give them, and question the words of people who claim to be speaking
for him. The world would be a much better place if there are less of those ‘religious’ people who profess to serve their God, follow the teaching of their faith, and killing each others, and by-standers.
And some of them even actively try to help God bring about his ‘Armageddon’ so they can go to Heaven. See the attached article I received from a friend Nov 5, 2004. I would not want to go to Heaven to see again these people who believe they act to bring about God’s will. I wonder how God is going to deal with all these people when they go the Heaven to bask in his presence.
Dont’get me wrong on religions. There are plenty of good things that religions bring, and plenty of good religious people. They might bring courage, and solace at difficult time. There are Mother Theresa and Desmond Tutu, then also there are Jim Jones, Jimmy Baker, Jimmy Swaggart etc. But I believe religion and faith is a personal thing, and should be kept that way. Nothing wrong with trying to convert others to their faith. It might even help some people to have simple faith. Only when religions get institutionalized, when religious people get power, and try to impose their faith, thinking and way of life on others that I have problems with.