Putting the ‘Oh No’ in ‘Oh No He Didn’t’

Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joke.

Twice in the past month, my private communications have been splashed
about the internet. That such a thing would happen is unfortunate, and
dishonorable, but sadly inevitable, I suppose. I ignored the first
case, in which a rather pathetic woman acolyte of Greenwald’s published
a hyperbolic account of a conversation I had with her at a beach picnic
on Cape Cod.

“A rather pathetic woman acolyte.” Yes, that would be our very own frequent commenteraimai, and not that Joke posts here, but he can consider himself pre-banned. Were she male, I wonder what Joe would have called her. The condescension, it burns us.

Look. Once and for all the doughnuts, this is about who’s right. It’s not about who has the longest resumé or the biggest pundit cock or who can piss the farthest off the top of the Chrysler Building. It’s about how Joe fucked up on FISA a year and a half ago, and instead of just sacking up and admitting it like any first-year J-school student would know to do, he flapped around and denied he’d made a mistake and he acted like an asshole and Glenn wrote it all down. Obviously Joe’s having some kind of breakdown over that, but there was a pretty easy way to have prevented it: DON’T BE SUCH A CHOAD. OR WHEN YOU ARE A CHOAD, ADMIT YOUR CHOADITUDE AND APOLOGIZE AND FIX YOUR FUCKUP. God. It’s like dealing with a two-year-old. Who has amnesia. You cannot shoot yourself in the foot and then blame the dude who laughs at your stupidity for the hole where your big toe used to be.

You’ll notice, in reference to aimai, that Joe doesn’t actually deny that he said anything she said. Also, screaming idiocies at the top of your lungs in a public place in the United States of America doesn’t constitute a private communication. It’s not like she read your diary, Joke. You’re a public figure, a fact you like just fine when it’s making you fat stacks but hate like burning when it causes you to get called on your snide shit.

Could what Joe said, and the manner in which he said it, cause damage to his reputation? Absolutely. He made a tool out of himself in public. In his profession that’s dangerous. Talking shit about your true feelings about what you cover is a major no-no for a journalist of any kind or political persuasion. This is why I was careful who I talked about my work with, it’s why I’m still careful even though nobody cares what happened five years ago in some neighborhood. Because if I was overheard howling about who really was a fucking asshole I was only pretending to take seriously for the purposes of a story, somebody could come up to me and say, “Hey, is that why you did X instead of Y?” and then we’re off to the races.

the past several years, Greenwald has conducted a persistent, malicious
campaign to distort who I am and where I stand. He is a mean-spirited,
graceless bully. During that time, I have never seen him write a
positive sentence about the US military
, which has transformed itself
dramatically for the better since Rumsfeld’s departure (indeed, he
ridiculed me when I reported that the situation in Anbar Province was
turning around in 2007).

Emphasis mine, because that would be a relevant point were Joe the spokesman, say, for the Pentagon explaining why he was pissed at Glenn. Given, of course, that Glenn is under no obligation to write about anything except what he and his masters at Salon want him to write about. But I don’t see where Joe gets to decide that not writing “a positive sentence about the US military” is some kind of disqualification. I mean, what?

What I have seen from him, ad nauseum, are
intemperate attacks in which he questions the character of–no, it’s
worse than that: he slimes–anyone who has the temerity to disagree
with him.

Because calling someone “a rather pathetic woman acolyte” is such high-minded criticism.


Via theCrack Den.



19 thoughts on “Putting the ‘Oh No’ in ‘Oh No He Didn’t’

    Seriously, that post is the best thing ever. “Rather pathetic woman acolyte” has to be this year’s “I am aware of all internet traditions.”
    Also people who use “cares not a whit” earnestly AS PART OF AN INSULT are totally awesome and win the argument.
    Also Klein stuck his foot so far in his mouth he’s going to shit his lifts.
    Also Joe Klein cares not one whit about kittens, or baseball – it is not hyperbole, it is fact – and that makes him a totalitarian, and a goatfucker.

  2. Yes, I followed everything you said and concur. Amid a host of fallacies — and adolescent tricks of the tongue — Klein comes off as a paper-tiger hurling, “the inner tubes make me crazy mad, I’m so civil” non-sequitur-thumpin’ sissy.
    You know, if there is a grain of truth to the shrill of the internets, it’s the need to screech at the death of the MSM. I mean, a few years back, I used to respect these people, really I did. Now, I check my pockets, pinch myself and say, no, I’m the same dude, so they are…right, check.
    When will it end? (after the inner tubes stay on the babies’ case big time…) (let’s don’t stop)…

  3. “the biggest pundit cock”
    htw, for the life of me i’ll never understand why airhead big-timers think the sort of display klein just put on makes your cock look really big. klein had two options:
    1. actually try to destroy greenwald’s credibility, or at least land a solid blow somewhere (unfortunately, that takes work…)
    2. act like greenwald isn’t on his level (“you only get half a bar”)
    someone send klein a copy of ‘8 mile.’

  4. Klein’s a loser who’s only employed because he has consistently behaved as an establishment whore.
    Now he’s upset at being called out for being what he is.
    Fuck `im.
    I’ll read the “civil rights absolutist” every time over a pawn like Joke Line, if only because I get much more information from Greenwald than I ever will from a shill like Klein.
    Further, Klein has no actual, personal experience with the military. He doesn’t know that, in aggregate, our military is the dumbest, most immoral, bunch of human beings on the planet. But, he thinks it’s patriotic to cheer them on, no matter how vilely they behave in the service of their corporate masters.
    Klein’s just another joke in a long series of jokes on the American public. He thinks he’sterribly serious, but, in fact, he’s just another propagandist in the service of the powerful. That he can’t figure that out–even after having it explained to him–says a lot more about him than it does about either his audience or his detractors.
    He’s just another Village whiner, best as I can see.

  5. “i’ll never understand why airhead big-timers think the sort of display klein just put on makes your cock look really big.”
    Actually, it makes Klein sound a lot like he needs his diaper changed.

  6. How do we engineer this into a “let’s you and us fight” moment? Because that’s exactly what it is. This is Klein’s “trashed the place and it wasn’t (ours) to trash”. I’m sorry that the “old media” is dying, but they’re only dying because of suicidal nonsense like Jokey’s. Things like this are like seppuku with a delayed reaction…”see? see what I’m made of…see–um, oops…” (body thumps as it hits ground)
    I really don’t want THAT much. Just a sane, responsible media, a representative government, and regulated corporations. I know that’s against central Skull’n’Bonez tenets, but too fucking bad.

  7. “i’ll never understand why airhead big-timers think the sort of display klein just put on makes your cock look really big.”
    Simple .. because theywant to believe that displays like that make your cock look really big?

  8. Klein’s pissy because he really does believe the lies that everyone should ooooh and aahhhhh over his shit rather than respect him on his actual performance. Klein has low expectations of himself that he is surpassing. lol
    This current era has a lot of poorly performing adults in positions they have no business being in. Slop is slop no matter how you dress it.

  9. I meant no offense to the fine people who make the valid lifestyle choice to fuck goats.

  10. Hi A.
    Klein knows that his persistent malfeasance during the FISA debate is the damned spot on his journalistic career, so of course he can’t leave it alone – and he’s much too proud to admit error at this point. Keep scrubbing, Joey.
    P.S. For God’s sake couldn’t you at least have tried to coin a clever word like “Cheetotrix” or something?

  11. Posting insults on a LISTSERV does not constitute a private communication either. Jokeline’s an idjit.

  12. If you want to know why I have not read a newspaper in 35 years, read Joe Klein.
    If you want to know why the only reason I have a TV is to watch DVDs of music concerts, look at Glenn Beck.
    If you want to know why I have not listened to a radio in the last 20 years, listen to Rush Limbaugh.
    People have told me that I have to pay attention, bullshit. When the Gulf War broke out, someone drove 60 miles to a hunting cabin I was borrowing to make sure that I knew.
    When the twin towers were attacked, a woman on the bus stood up and announced that one of the towers had been attacked. Less than 15 minutes.
    When the last tree destroying “news”paper goes broke, I will cheer. All they are is a waste of perfectly good trees that absorb carbon dioxide and expel oxygen.
    ALL “news”paper or magazine people should be drafted and made to plant trees.

  13. Wait, I thought it was Mickey Kaus who was the goatfucker.
    Edit: nope, Mickey is merely a goat BLOWER. Joke Line can be called the goatfucker. Carry on.

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