Since I Must, David Frum

People keeping e-mailing me aboutDavid Frum, and … look. I don’t have a single ounce of respect for this asshole. If he didn’t know he was getting in bed with these squirrel nuts years ago, if he didn’t realize when he was humping Bush’s leg that these were the people keeping his heroic preznit and his party in power, if he couldn’t figure out from the screams coming from the basement that his empire was built on the human equivalent of rabid circus animals, then he is so criminally stupid he should be institutionalized for his own safety.

And if he did realize? Which he almost assuredly did? Fuck him, he gets what he gets.

Some of the Republican leadership like Jim DeMint, I think did play a very hard-line role.Some of our leaders were trapped. They were trapped byvoices in the media that revved the Republican base into a frenzy that made dealing impossible. I mean, you can’t negotiate with Adolf Hitler, andif the President is Adolf Hitler, then obviously you can’t negotiate with him. Sosome of the blame has got to go to those who said, who got the psychology of the party to a point where a lot of good people, reasonable people were trapped.

NO THEY WEREN’T. If they were good, reasonable people, all they had to do was refuse to listen to those voices in the media that made dealinginconvenient, and do as they pleased. Would their teabag base have been mad at them? Yeah. Sure. SO WHAT? Nobody held a gun to the head of John Boehner and made him a total idiot. He made the choice to do that all on his own. It is time to stop giving political cowardice a pass by pretending it’s an actual thing. Nobody strapped him to a table.

Lamar Alexander can whine all day long about how it was Rush Limbaugh that made him be a pussy; he still has agency as an adult human being and as a white dude ain’t much stopping him from doing whatever the fuck he wants in America today. If any of the centrist, reasonable dudes Frum feels so sorry for wanted to be centrist and reasonable, all they had to do was go do that.

I mean, I live a pretty happy life ignoring the fuck out of Hannity and Beck; it can’t be that hard to do.



15 thoughts on “Since I Must, David Frum

  1. Meh, I think there’s something to this, as long as you stipulate that these people are not only good and reasonable, they are also cowards. It’s certainly possible for a good and reasonable coward to do something bad out of fear for their own skin.

  2. Frum is full of shit. This bill was full of concessions to the GOP that they stopped liking the minute it was in the bill. That’s why it’s a full of shit bill that I hate. Unfortunately it had to be passed.

  3. Frum is an asshole. The only thing I want to do is bury him in CD’s of Abba’s Waterloo.
    None of them get any quarter from me. They chose to be jackasses. They need to live with the consequences.

  4. Frum helped breed it, and now, it scares him.
    Fuck him. This is your beloved base, Davie. Tut tutting now will not absolve you of the guilt when one of them acts on the violent fantasy. You’re gonna have to ride this one. Own it.
    And A is right – ignoring Beck is easy. What’s hard is to stand up and call out this shit when you think it is benefiting you, because it is shit and wrong. NO ONE on that side of the aisle was willing to do that, so fuck em all.

  5. “Frum helped breed it, and now, it scares him.”
    Ding ding ding! Gingrich, Frum and the old-school Republicans got in bed with Ralph Reed & the Christian Coalition, the NRA and redneck conservatism to get W his votes in 2000 and 2004, and now they reap all that shit. This is what happens when you get in bed with whatever the hell gets you votes.

  6. The repubs have been trying to scare the dems not to pass it (you won’t get elected. It causes cooties.) The dems have called their bluff.
    The repubs could have gotten a lot out of the bill by working in good faith. But instead they have backed themselves into a corner where all repubs voted against Health Care.
    This has got to be a rallying cry in the next election.

  7. Frum isn’t worth the pixels it takes to comment on him.
    As one who was sure Obama had taken leave of his senses in how he accomplished this, I owe him an apology. Results count. And, Obama did something no president from Teddy Roosevelt onward has been able to do. And, as a bonus he stapled the label of the “no” party onto the Repubs so firmly the ends of the staples are sticking a mile out. My lips are zipped when it comes to criticizing our President now. (For a day, anyway.)

  8. Yeah, I’m sort of baffled by my liberal friends who are gushingly posting Frum’s comments on Facebook this morning.?? I don’t care what he says. He doesn’t have anything of value to add to the conversation, and ultimately, he is an apologist for his racist political party that would send the country over the cliff if they could make it look like it was the Democrats’ fault. Screw him.

  9. Basically, Frum is right. For example:
    I mean, you can’t negotiate with Adolf Hitler, and if the President is Adolf Hitler, then obviously you can’t negotiate with him.
    That’s the entire problem with going to Hitler as your comparison, as Jon Stewart and every other rational voice pointed out. So it’s not insignificant that a conservative thinker like Frum now says that the brand of conservatism being practiced by the GOP is precisely the brand William Buckley effectively ousted from the Party almost 50 years ago.
    But it wasn’t because the leadership was “trapped.” It’s because the leadership embraced it. Which, to a degree, Frum acknowledges:
    No illusions please: This bill will not be repealed. Even if Republicans scored a 1994 style landslide in November, how many votes could we muster to re-open the “doughnut hole” and charge seniors more for prescription drugs? How many votes to re-allow insurers to rescind policies when they discover a pre-existing condition? How many votes to banish 25 year olds from their parents’ insurance coverage? And even if the votes were there – would President Obama sign such a repeal?
    We followed the most radical voices in the party and the movement, and they led us to abject and irreversible defeat.

    And who does he blame? The “real leaders,” as he calls them, theones who hijacked the national conversation:
    The real leaders are on TV and radio, and they have very different imperatives from people in government. Talk radio thrives on confrontation and recrimination. When Rush Limbaugh said that he wanted President Obama to fail, he was intelligently explaining his own interests. What he omitted to say – but what is equally true – is that he also wants Republicans to fail. If Republicans succeed – if they govern successfully in office and negotiate attractive compromises out of office – Rush’s listeners get less angry. And if they are less angry, they listen to the radio less, and hear fewer ads for Sleepnumber beds.
    Which is a cogent analysis, but still ignores the reality of what “leaders” do: theylead. If all they really do is follow instead, then they aren’t leaders.
    Obama proved he’s a leader, last night. The GOP proved they aren’t.
    Game over, man! Game over!

  10. David Frum, I drink your bitter tears and find them indescribably refreshing, sweet and delicious.

  11. frum is the pied piper of stupid. and now the stupids are led by beckkk and the base they have culled i out on a limb of insanity, like a cat that can’t get out of a tree.

  12. Frum is a douchebag and a fool. It’s the party of Tricky Dick and Newt. Everyone knows that except for deluded Goopers.

  13. Personally, and it’s my subjective tangent, the most crazy making part of his statement was about all the health care stuff they couldn’t reasonably take back from people that it had now been given to, ie, Republicans can’t now un-insure people that have just been insured,take away the prescriptions that have just been given to seniors” etc.
    And he’s right, it’s unthinkable, BUT these same fucks didn’t blink twice at the idea of taking away family rights from gays that had been legally married in California. And after Prop 8 passed, but those already extended rights were exempted, they still wanted to go back and take them away.
    Again, a tangent, but he’s naive to think there isn’t a large contingent that right now would be entirely willing to take stuff back if they thought they could, at least from the people they deem the most “undeserving.”

  14. I’m sort of baffled by my liberal friends who are gushingly posting Frum’s comments on Facebook this morning.
    These are people who don’t remember history beyond a year ago. I think it’s ok to agree with Frum’s Waterloo piece as long as you acknowledge alongside that he was one of the people who created this mess, who is adept at throwing blame and switching sides when favorable, who invited Beck and Palin to an otherwise somewhat civilized debate over fundamental, principled differences in how to run the country among adults. There’s nothing wrong in gushing at Frum’s frustration at his own party as he wakes up to a festering monster in his bed that he brought home the night before.

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